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PECB ISO-9001-Lead-Auditor Exam - Topic 6 Question 29 Discussion

Posted by Theron on Feb 12, 2025 at 04:25 AM

An audit team of three people is conducting a Stage 2 audit to ISO 9001 of an engineering organisation that manufactures sacrificial anodes for the oil and gas industry in marine environments. These are aluminium products designed to prevent corrosion of submerged steel structures. You, as one of the auditors, find that the organisation has shipped anodes for Project DK in the Gulf of Mexico before the galvanic efficiency test results for the anodes have been fully analysed and reported as required by the customer. The Quality Manager explains that the Managing Director authorised the release of the anodes to avoid late delivery as penalties would be Imposed. The customer was not informed since the tests very rarely fall below the required efficiency. You raise a nonconformity against clause 8.6 of ISO 9001.

At the Closing meeting, the audit team leader presents the findings of the audit and comes to the above

nonconformity. The Quality Manager produces the test report for Project DK, which shows an acceptable galvanic efficiency, and presents an email from the customer confirming acceptance of the anodes. He asks that the nonconformity be withdrawn.

Which two of the following responses by the audit team leader would be acceptable?

Suggested Answer: B, D

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27 comments · newest first
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Lindsey 10 months ago
Why would they think skipping steps is okay? Just weird.
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Brittani 11 months ago
Option B is the best choice here, need to review properly.
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Casey 11 months ago
Wait, they shipped without full test results? That’s risky!
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Peggie 11 months ago
Totally agree, the process is there for a reason.
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Gladys 11 months ago
Seems like a clear nonconformity to me. Can't skip tests!
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Ricki 12 months ago
I recall a similar question where we had to weigh the evidence against the nonconformity. I feel like option B is the most balanced approach to ensure we follow up properly.
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Bettye 12 months ago
I think option D makes sense because it highlights a system failure, but I wonder if we should consider the customer's acceptance as a mitigating factor.
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Pamella 12 months ago
I'm a bit unsure about the implications of accepting the Quality Manager's request without a thorough review. It feels risky, but I guess if the documentation is solid, it could be okay?
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Yuki 1 year ago
I remember discussing the importance of reviewing documentation before making any decisions during our practice sessions. It seems like option B might be the safest choice here.
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Brandon 1 year ago
I'm confident we can resolve this in a fair and objective way. The key is to follow the audit procedures while also considering the practical implications for the organization.
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Mike 1 year ago
This is a good learning opportunity. I think we should review the documentation thoroughly, but also consider the customer's acceptance. The goal is to ensure the quality system is effective.
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Sabra 1 year ago
I'm a bit confused here. The customer accepted the anodes, but the process wasn't followed. I'll need to discuss this with the team and make sure we handle it appropriately.
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Ressie 1 year ago
The Quality Manager's explanation seems reasonable, but I want to make sure we follow the proper audit process. Withdrawing the nonconformity without a thorough review could be risky.
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Gilberto 1 year ago
This is a tricky situation. I'll need to carefully review the documentation to determine if the nonconformity should be withdrawn.
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Paola 2 years ago
I think the audit team leader should advise management that the information will be reviewed at the follow-up stage. That's the responsible way to handle this situation.
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Ilene 2 years ago
Haha, looks like the Managing Director pulled a fast one to avoid penalties. But the auditors shouldn't fall for that kind of shenanigan!
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Edmond 2 years ago
↳ replying to Ilene
I agree, the auditors should focus on the nonconformity and not be swayed by external pressures.
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Jamika 2 years ago
↳ replying to Ilene
That was a risky move by the Managing Director, but the auditors need to stay objective.
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Fausto 2 years ago
I believe the documentation provided shows that the nonconformity should be withdrawn.
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Kattie 2 years ago
I agree, we need to ensure that the system failure is rectified.
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Nelida 2 years ago
The audit team should maintain the nonconformity. Shipping products without following the required testing procedures is a clear violation, regardless of the customer's acceptance.
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Tenesha 2 years ago
I'm not convinced that the Quality Manager's last-minute documentation is sufficient to address the nonconformity. We need to thoroughly review it before making a decision.
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Natalie 2 years ago
↳ replying to Tenesha
E) Refuse to accept the documentation produced and maintain the nonconformity.
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Stevie 2 years ago
↳ replying to Tenesha
D) Indicate that the nonconformity is evidence of a system failure that needs to be rectified.
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Stevie 2 years ago
↳ replying to Tenesha
C) Ask the auditor (you) who raised the issue, to state what you think should happen
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Miesha 2 years ago
↳ replying to Tenesha
B) Advise management that the information provided will be reviewed at the audit follow-up stage.
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Werner 2 years ago
I think we should review the documentation before making a decision.
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