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PECB ISO-9001-Lead-Auditor Exam - Topic 1 Question 35 Discussion

Posted by Wenona on Jul 05, 2025 at 10:34 PM

Scenario 7: POLKA is a car manufacturing company based in Stockholm, Sweden. The company has around 14,000 employees working in different sectors which help with the design, painting, assembling, and test drives of the final product. The company is widely known for its qualitative products and affordable prices. In order to retain their reputation, POLKA implemented a quality management system (QMS) based on ISO 9001.

Before applying for certification, the company decided to conduct an internal audit to check whether there are any nonconformities in their QMS and if the requirements of ISO 9001 are being fulfilled. The top management appointed Sean, the internal auditor, as the team leader of the internal audit team. Sean required from the top management to have unrestricted access to the employees and executives of POLKA and to the documented information. Furthermore, Sean required to establish a team with a large number of auditors, considering the size and the complexity of the organization. The top management of POLKA agreed with Sean's requirements.

The top management, in cooperation with Sean, assigned 10 more employees to the audit team. Following that. Sean planned the audit activities and assigned the roles and responsibilities to each auditor. They began by interviewing employees of different manufacturing departments to check whether they are aware of the process of the QMS implementation. While conducting these activities, one of the auditors asked Sean for permission to audit the department in which he worked on a daily basis, as he was very familiar with the processes of the department.

Along the way, the teams findings showed that the staff were trained, documented information was updated, and the QMS fulfilled the requirements of ISO 9001. The internal audit took three weeks to complete, and on the last week the audit team held a final meeting

The team shared their results and together drafted the audit report This report was submitted to the top management of the company. The report was maintained as documented information, and was available to the relevant interested parties.

Based on the scenario above, answer the following questio n:

Ten employees of POLKA were part of the audit team that conducted the internal audit. Is this acceptable?

Suggested Answer: A

Comprehensive and Detailed In-Depth

According to ISO 9001:2015, Clause 9.2 (Internal Audit):

Internal audits are conducted by employees of the company who are trained as auditors.

External auditors are not mandatory unless required by the organization.

Thus, A is the correct answer.


ISO 9001:2015, Clause 9.2 (Internal Audit)

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28 comments · newest first
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Delmy 10 months ago
Actually, it's encouraged to have internal auditors from within the company.
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Hollis 10 months ago
Surprised they let employees audit their own departments! Seems risky.
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Francisca 10 months ago
I disagree, I thought ISO 9001 needed external auditors for objectivity.
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Brittni 10 months ago
Yeah, it's totally fine for employees to be part of the audit team.
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Louisa 10 months ago
I think having insiders helps with understanding the processes better.
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Carmelina 11 months ago
From what I studied, including employees in the internal audit team is acceptable and even encouraged by ISO 9001 to ensure familiarity with processes.
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Stephanie 11 months ago
I feel a bit uncertain about this one. I thought ISO 9001 preferred external auditors for objectivity, but maybe that's just for external audits?
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Tony 11 months ago
I think we practiced a question similar to this, and I recall that ISO 9001 does allow for internal auditors to be from within the company.
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Tijuana 11 months ago
I remember discussing that internal audits can include employees, but I'm not sure if there's a specific limit on how many can participate.
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Natalie 11 months ago
Okay, I think I've got this figured out. The key here is that the scenario states the top management agreed to Sean's requirements, which included having a large audit team. This suggests that including 10 POLKA employees on the team is acceptable, as long as they are not auditing their own work. I'm going to go with option A as my answer.
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Hermila 12 months ago
I'm a bit confused on this one. The scenario mentions that the top management agreed to Sean's requirements, including having a large audit team. But I'm not sure if that means it's necessarily acceptable for 10 employees to be part of the team. The ISO 9001 standard might have specific guidelines on the composition of the audit team. I'll need to review the standard more closely to make a confident decision.
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Winifred 12 months ago
Okay, let me think this through. The question is asking if it's acceptable for 10 POLKA employees to be part of the internal audit team. From what I can tell, the scenario indicates that the top management agreed to Sean's requirement to establish a large audit team, considering the size and complexity of the organization. So I'm leaning towards option A as the correct answer.
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Cassandra 12 months ago
Hmm, this is an interesting scenario. Based on my understanding, it's generally acceptable for a company to include some of its own employees on the internal audit team, as long as they are not auditing their own work. The key is to have a mix of internal and external auditors to maintain objectivity. I'll need to double-check the specifics, but I think option A might be the right answer here.
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Timothy 1 year ago
I'm not too sure about this one. The question seems a bit tricky, and I'm not entirely familiar with the ISO 9001 requirements for internal audits. I'll need to carefully review the information provided and think through the options.
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Patria 1 year ago
I see your point, having a balanced team could ensure a more thorough audit process.
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Erinn 1 year ago
That's a good point, maybe having a mix of internal and external auditors would be more beneficial.
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Nobuko 1 year ago
Well, at least they didn't just ask the janitor to audit the whole company. That would have been even worse!
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Luis 1 year ago
But what if there is a conflict of interest with employees auditing their own departments?
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Leonard 1 year ago
Ha! I bet the employees who were part of the audit team gave the company a glowing review. Talk about a conflict of interest!
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Keneth 1 year ago
↳ replying to Leonard
Ha! I bet the employees who were part of the audit team gave the company a glowing review. Talk about a conflict of interest!
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Devora 1 year ago
↳ replying to Leonard
B) No, ISO 9001 requires hiring a professional team of auditors who are not part of the company to conduct the internal audit
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Carma 1 year ago
↳ replying to Leonard
A) Yes, members of the company can join the internal audit team
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Tonja 1 year ago
Hmm, I'm not sure that's the best approach. Wouldn't it be better to have a more independent team of auditors who aren't already part of the company? That could help ensure an unbiased assessment.
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Patria 1 year ago
I agree with Erinn, having employees on the team can provide valuable insights.
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Deonna 1 year ago
I think including 10 employees from POLKA in the audit team is a good idea. They know the company's processes inside out, so they can provide valuable insights during the audit.
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Hollis 1 year ago
↳ replying to Deonna
I agree, having employees from POLKA on the audit team can help ensure a thorough audit process.
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Nell 1 year ago
↳ replying to Deonna
A) Yes, members of the company can join the internal audit team
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Erinn 1 year ago
I think it's acceptable for employees to be part of the audit team.
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