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CIMAPRA19-F03-1 Exam - Topic 2 Question 63 Discussion

Posted by Chantell on Jan 06, 2023 at 10:19 PM

When valuing an unlisted company, aP/Eratio for a similar listed company may be used but adjustments to theP/Eratio may be necessary.

Which THREE of the following factors would justify a reduction in the proxy p/e ratio before use?

Suggested Answer: A, B, E

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Mee 12 months ago
Lack of marketability is a big factor, can't overlook that.
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Angella 12 months ago
Control premium should definitely be considered, good point!
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Nikita 1 year ago
Wait, are we really adjusting for forecast earnings growth? Seems odd.
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Luisa 1 year ago
Totally agree, smaller companies usually have more risk.
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Dierdre 1 year ago
A lower level of scrutiny for unlisted companies makes sense.
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Denna 1 year ago
Control premiums not being included in the proxy P/E ratio sounds familiar, but I’m not confident if it’s one of the top three factors we discussed.
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Thea 1 year ago
Unlisted companies being smaller and less established seems like a clear reason to adjust the P/E ratio, but I wonder if that applies to all cases.
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Carman 1 year ago
I think the lower level of scrutiny for unlisted companies is a valid point, but I can't recall if it was one of the main reasons we focused on in practice questions.
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Aaron 1 year ago
I remember discussing how the lack of marketability could definitely justify a lower P/E ratio, but I'm not sure if it's the most important factor.
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Moon 1 year ago
Hmm, I'm a bit confused by the wording of this question. I'll need to re-read it a few times and think through the different scenarios.
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Howard 1 year ago
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Yoko 1 year ago
This question is like a game of Tetris - you gotta fit the right pieces together to make it work. A, C, and F are the way to go. Although, I can't help but wonder if the exam writers just threw in a few wild cards to see who's really paying attention. Unlisted companies and their 'profit items' - what a wild ride!
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Dalene 1 year ago
A, C, and F are the winners here. Although, I have to say, the idea of an unlisted company being subject to less scrutiny and regulation just sounds like a recipe for disaster. Maybe they should toss in a few goats and a crystal ball to really seal the deal!
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Thersa 1 year ago
This is a tricky one! I'd go with A, C, and F. Gotta watch out for those sneaky answers that seem like they'd increase the P/E ratio, but actually decrease it. Can't fool me, exam writers!
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Elly 1 year ago
↳ replying to Thersa
F) A profit item within the unlisted company's latest earnings which will not reoccur.
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Sage 1 year ago
↳ replying to Thersa
C) Unlisted companies being generally smaller and less established.
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Tequila 1 year ago
↳ replying to Thersa
I agree with F, one-time profit items can skew the ratio if not adjusted for.
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Jonelle 1 year ago
↳ replying to Thersa
A) The relative lack of marketability of unlisted company shares.
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Kimi 1 year ago
↳ replying to Thersa
Yeah, C seems important too, smaller and less established companies might have lower ratios.
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Dino 1 year ago
↳ replying to Thersa
I think A makes sense, lack of marketability can definitely lower the P/E ratio.
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Theron 1 year ago
The correct answers are A, C, and F. The lower scrutiny and regulation (B) and the higher growth forecast (E) would actually justify an increase in the proxy P/E ratio, not a reduction.
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Veronica 1 year ago
↳ replying to Theron
F) A profit item within the unlisted company's latest earnings which will not reoccur.
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Breana 1 year ago
↳ replying to Theron
C) Unlisted companies being generally smaller and less established.
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Hailey 1 year ago
↳ replying to Theron
A) The relative lack of marketability of unlisted company shares.
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Thomasena 2 years ago
A, C, and F are the factors that would justify a reduction in the proxy P/E ratio. The lack of marketability and the smaller, less established nature of the unlisted company warrant a lower valuation, and a non-recurring earnings item should also be accounted for.
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Alica 1 year ago
↳ replying to Thomasena
Yes, the lack of marketability, smaller size, and non-recurring earnings all play a role in adjusting the ratio.
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Julianna 1 year ago
↳ replying to Thomasena
I think A, C, and F are the factors that justify a reduction in the proxy P/E ratio.
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Skye 2 years ago
I also think factor E could justify a reduction. Higher forecast earnings growth in the unlisted company should definitely be taken into account.
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Kent 2 years ago
I agree with Vernice. The lack of marketability, smaller size, and non-recurring profit item are all valid reasons for adjustment.
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Vernice 2 years ago
I think factors A, C, and F would justify a reduction in the proxy p/e ratio.
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